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about keener capital management llc
rob keener
rob keener is the president of keener capital management llc ("kcm"). kcm is a cta and ib. the main operation of kcm is designing mechanical trading strategies and trading them for clients.



rob has been a cta and broker for over 4 years and a student of the market for more than 9 years.



keener capital management llc has several alliances that allow clients to participate in the system trading process. these include but are not limited to purchase, broker support trading or managed futures.



1. you can buy the systems offered by keener capital management llc - these includes octane and gorilla. kcm can also custom design systems for your own personalized trading style. these models may be purchased as a tradestation add-on or conveniently traded trough our partnership with strategy runner, an auto-execution service.
request a strategy runner demo by clicking here
. this will open a new window.



2. broker support trading is another way to participate. you can have kcm trade the strategies that they sell or kcm can trade the strategies of third party vendors. mr. keener has been supporting and executing system trades for four years. he supplies the data and makes all calculations to generate the signals. real-time or end of day approaches. clearing trades through man financial, kcm can trade it for you!



3. managed futures: through a partnership with pisgah trading group llc, kcm offers diversified portfolios for account sizes over $100,000. kcm also offers managed futures directly for $10,000 accounts and up.



feel free to contact rob for a round turn quote or detailed description of any of the systems mentioned.



tel: +1-828-890-9070



fax: +1-320-213-3247



email rob@keenercapital.com





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octane 2.15
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octane 2.15: strategies developed in real-time. mechanical s&p futures trading approach



octane v 2.15: this is a mechanical trading strategy for the mini s&p and mini russell futures. this is a day-trading model that will trade once per day or not at all depending on market conditions. the file that is available for purchase is for tradestation 7. if you have a desire to implement the timing model, but do not use tradestation 7 we can help. simply send an email to octane@hungryhippo.com with your request.



is this a black box?



no. the logic is fully disclosed. we'll tell you exactly what the system is, what the parameters are, and how to make changes.



why do you disclose the logic?



simple. people need to know and understand what they are trading. this way you can test different parameters, entry setups, exits. this is a simple model that works. the equity curve is not straight up. losing trades are part of trading. the crux is how you handle losses. after five losers in a row, will you take the next trade?



performance? email octane@hungryhippo.com or call 828-890-9070 and ask for rob.





is it possible to see some recent example trades?



click this link: chart book



can i get a demo?



yes. send an email to octane@hungryhippo.com and ask for one. we'll send you a locked up version with a time bomb in it. this way you can see how it works on your tradestation 6. and after n days it will no longer generate signals. sound fair?



how will the system be delivered?



once your credit card is approved you will be given information on where to download the appropriate files.



how long will it take for delivery?



the download process should take less than 1 minute.



how much will all of this cost?



the cost is $999 per license for the system.



buy now

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risk disclosure statement

the risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial. you should therefore carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. in considering whether to trade or to authorize someone else to trade for you, you should be aware of the following: (1) if you purchase a commodity option, you may sustain a total loss of the premium and of all transaction costs. (2) if you purchase or sell a commodity future or sell a commodity option, you may sustain a total loss of the initial margin funds and any additional funds that you deposit with your broker to establish or maintain your position. if the market moves against your position, you may be called upon by your broker to deposit a substantial amount of additional margin funds, on short notice, in order to maintain your position. if you do not provide the required funds within the prescribed time, your position may be liquidated at a loss, and you will be liable for any resulting deficit in your account. (3) under certain market conditions, you may find it difficult or impossible to liquidate a position. this can occur, for example, when the market makes a "limit move." (4) the placement of contingent orders by you or your trading advisor, such as a "stop-loss" or "stop-limit" order, will not necessarily limit your losses to the intended amounts, since market conditions may make it impossible to execute such orders. (5) a "spread" position may not be less risky than a simple "long" or "short" position. (6) the high degree of leverage that is often obtainable in commodity trading can work against you as well as for you. the use of leverage can lead to large losses as well as gains. in some cases, managed commodity accounts are subject to substantial charges for management and advisory fees. it may be necessary for those accounts that are subject to these charges to make substantial trading profits to avoid depletion or exhaustion of their assets. this brief statement cannot disclose all the risks and other significant aspects of the commodity markets. you should therefore carefully study commodity trading before you trade. transactions on markets located outside the united states, including markets formally linked to a united states market may be subject to regulations which offer different or diminished protection. further, united states regulatory authorities may be unable to compel the enforcement of the rules of regulatory authorities or markets in non-united states jurisdictions where your transactions may be effected. before you trade you should inquire about any rules relevant to your contemplated transactions and ask the firm with which you intend to trade for details about the types of redress available in both your local and other relevant jurisdictions. notice required by the cftc

please read the following disclaimers: all performance numbers and chart snapshots are hypothetical and were produced using tradestation 6. hypothetical or simulated performance results have many inherent limitations, some of which are described below. no representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. in fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particular trading program. one of the limitations of hypothetical performance results is that they are generally prepared with the benefit of hindsight. in addition, hypothetical trading does not involve financial risk, and no hypothetical trading record can completely account for the impact of financial risk in actual trading. for example, the ability to withstand losses or adhere to a particular trading program in spite of trading losses are material points which can also adversely affect actual trading results. there are numerous other factors related to the markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program which cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results.

 

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